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the key dates i've got

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that you know just to remind some of us

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that aren't quite as educated as we

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should be even though i had my catholic

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school upbringing for for three years

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but it's been a while

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uh so i just took jotted down dates you

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got lent

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and tell me if i got these in order lent

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and then you got ash wednesday palm

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sunday good friday and easter

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right that's exactly now it's

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interesting because i was also raised a

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roman catholic

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uh but i likewise have not really paid

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much attention to that

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in a long time that that uh when i

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reading and studying the bible for

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myself that's when i started to realize

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that some of these are man-made

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traditions

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not necessarily biblically rooted and

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grounded

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and that's what led me on this search

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it's what led me on this

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journey both with regard to the nativity

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and then also with regard to the

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resurrection

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yeah catholics aren't really known for

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studying the bible a lot right

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well they are but they also developed a

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lot of traditions

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in parallel and that's where that's

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frankly that's and

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this isn't catholic bashing but that's

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also frankly where

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a lot of this issue comes in because

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which is more important the biblical

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truth

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or the tradition or does it matter

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right that's that's really the questions

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we're addressing here

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and you know my fundamental opinion is

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yes it does matter

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and that the biblical truth wins out

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well and part of these traditions they

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traditions right in particular

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easter is a good example of that right

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sure well there's there's this concept

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that is known

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as syncretism right and

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syncretism at least what it looks like

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from the outside looking in

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is that you have a christian concept

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and a pagan concept and there's some

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similarities

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right so what you do basically is you

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you put them in a bag and you shake them

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up and you mix well and you

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come out with this um practice

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or idea or doctrine or whatever

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that is appealing to both and

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uh from a purist which is kind of what i

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you know one looks at those kind of

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things and goes well wait a second

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and i understand that

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maybe we're trying to appeal to

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unbelievers

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you know after a fashion but we

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shouldn't necessarily

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change the truth to to do that yeah so

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what was the pagan tradition of easter

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well i mean there are there are death

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that abound throughout you know ancient

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religions of all types so

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so the the concept of a death and

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resurrection myth

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that in and of itself is not unusual

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at all that so you know that's it's the

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what makes the biblical version

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different is that

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believers say no this really happened

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literally died and rose from the dead

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not some myth about a god that

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you know we don't know whether they

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really existed or not

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you know dying and rising from the dead

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but as far as the pagan holiday or

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whatever it was that

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it wasn't it based on you know the whole

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egg and rebirth and spring

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and all that kind of stuff yeah because

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once again just even in the broad

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fertility rights that happened in the

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spring so that was usually

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everything gets reborn and everything

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we get the word easter

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from and and how do we get uh bunnies

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that's been around thousands of years

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you know fertility symbols to choose

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the easter bunny come around

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about the easter bunny and then okay

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okay so so going through the key dave's

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so it starts with lent what is lent

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hard-pressed to answer that because

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that is a traditional period of time

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practice lent as well but because i gave

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that up because i don't

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see that biblically as a an accurate

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uh thing i haven't done that myself

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don't that's something i've never truly

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files of my mind because that's

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palm fronds and then you burn them and

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okay so what's the first key date in the

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well the the key is what i've discovered

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word easter isn't even in the bible

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it's not there all right now some people

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second the king james in the book of

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language yes it is used once in the king

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shalt keep the passover you know as an

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you know commemoration of being uh you

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passover okay so that's so so that's a

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great so that's really the place that

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nation of egypt

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and god ordained that a deliverer should

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rescue them from egypt

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and that is the prophet moses right and

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you know out of egypt you have the whole

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thing with the plagues and pharaoh

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and all that and as part of that

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tradition of slaughtering a lamb

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uh then having a meal of that lamb

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but then while they did this they would

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inside and they would take the blood of

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doorpost and lentils of their house

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egypt as it's recorded in the old

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final plague or the final curse against

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enslaving the israelites and not letting

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them go was that the angel of death

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would see the blood on the door and pass

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over that house and leave it

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untouched right and then that the angel

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of death

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killed quote unquote the firstborn of

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every household

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uh in egypt both man and beast

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wow that's quite a quite a story yeah it

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is i mean it's an amazing

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story uh because it's it is the

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foundation

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of the uh the jewish religion

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and then as a result it's a critical

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component

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of the christian religion because the

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from a christian understanding jesus

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christ fulfilled that

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as the ultimate passover lamb so when we

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use the phrase lamb of god that's not

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just some

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random innocent animal that we're

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talking about the passover lamb

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so right jesus is now the

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metaphorical lamb correct and he is

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being

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sacrificed correct and

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he's being sacrificed because well he's

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just saved to

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to save the jews or to save mankind

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all of the above yeah both and yeah that

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on one hand his initial

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mission was exclusively as the jewish

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messiah but then for for lack of a

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better way of putting it

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when the jews rejected him as their

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messiah

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then you know plan b got initiated which

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was the salvation

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of all humanity so

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when you say plan b um because yeah i

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mean the old testament is all about

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the jews right and then jesus of course

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is is a jew

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and the messiah is supposed to save the

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jews

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correct um and jesus is that messiah

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so did god send him to save the jews or

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did he send him to save mankind

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well it's really both you know both are

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actually intermixed all throughout

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the um the old testament i mean when you

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do your research properly

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you discover that there's actually this

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thing and this is some pretty deep

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theology

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uh there's actually this thing called

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the everlasting covenant

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okay that was something that god

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initiated

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before he ever created anything and his

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and it and it describes his purpose in

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uh creating the

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the universe in creating mankind and

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then

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initiating this plan so that

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um he knew he knew in advance because

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god's you know right omniscient

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right he knows everything so he knew in

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advance that even though he would

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initiate this plan that humanity would

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fail that we would fall and that he

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would have to rescue us

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so his plan has always been

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to create mankind and then

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mankind would screw up and then you know

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he would rescue mankind

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so that we could be redeemed and have a

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and this pertained this goes back

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to adam and eve right i mean they're

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they're they're the first ones that fell

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but as far as original sin origination

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comes from adam and eve

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correct yes absolutely that's when

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that's when man was fallen

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and was was doomed

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because they didn't obey god's commands

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yeah in effect yes because

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he created them perfect for lack of a

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better word and that they

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had fellowship with god and he said

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i really only have one rule and that's

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don't eat of the tree the knowledge of

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good and evil

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and then adam and eve did that and they

381
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broke the one rule which

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you know screwed everything up and you

383
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know ruined fellowship with god

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and the human race became dysfunctional

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at least

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at the very least in our relationship

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with god

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as a result so but why does god need to

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send

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jesus to save everyone why couldn't

391
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god being god simply say i forgive you

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and you guys are you guys are good again

393
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right well at least theoretically of

394
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course he could do that you know he

395
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could wave his

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magic wand and just and just fix it but

397
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the

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uh a huge two huge components that i

399
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understand from scripture with regard to

400
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his original plan and also the plan of

401
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redemption

402
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are two little things called free will

403
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and love

404
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that that really is is what god is after

405
00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:01,199
is that number one

406
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he is a god of love and that he is

407
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demonstrating that

408
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uh through his plan of redemption but

409
00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:07,440
then also

410
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in in connection with that is free will

411
00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:12,480
that part of his love for mankind

412
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is to give mankind free will so he

413
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chooses to love

414
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us we need to choose to love him back

415
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let's talk about the difference between

416
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what the the jews were expecting out of

417
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their messiah

418
00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:27,920
and and jesus and why they sure rejected

419
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him

420
00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:31,279
yeah so all through the old covenant you

421
00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:33,199
know there are these prophecies

422
00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:36,399
of this coming one this one the anointed

423
00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:38,079
one the mashiach

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the messiah the king who would rescue

425
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the jews right well you can tell

426
00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:44,800
even right there from that phrase the

427
00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:46,560
king the messiah the king

428
00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:48,560
so there's the implication of a

429
00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:49,600
political leader

430
00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:52,959
right and uh he's he's got

431
00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:55,680
a lot of different names and titles

432
00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:56,480
throughout the

433
00:15:01,590 --> 00:14:59,279
old testament that makes it sound like

434
00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:01,600
he is you know a military leader and a

435
00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:02,720
political leader

436
00:15:07,829 --> 00:15:06,240
and because the jews were dominated by

437
00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:07,839
foreign influence for

438
00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:10,160
you know several hundred years beginning

439
00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:11,600
with the babylonians

440
00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:15,440
you know over time you know their um

441
00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:18,160
their understanding of their own messiah

442
00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:19,279
um

443
00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:22,320
became almost exclusively he's going to

444
00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:22,800
be a

445
00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:25,360
medical military political leader who's

446
00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:27,279
going to rescue us

447
00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:29,040
from the dominion of these foreign

448
00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:30,480
nations which of course

449
00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:32,880
at the specific time of the crucifixion

450
00:15:36,069 --> 00:15:34,079
would have been rome but they were

451
00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:36,079
dominated by the greeks before that

452
00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:37,600
and the persians before that and the

453
00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:39,199
babylonians before that

454
00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:41,120
so they'd had a belly full of it for you

455
00:15:46,949 --> 00:15:44,160
know 600 years

456
00:15:47,829 --> 00:15:46,959
and the the jews were basically god's

457
00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:47,839
chosen

458
00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:50,240
people right right yeah that's the

459
00:15:52,389 --> 00:15:50,959
phrase we

460
00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,399
the convenient phrase that we like to

461
00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:54,240
throw around is that they are god's

462
00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:55,120
chosen people

463
00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:57,440
but that really means to that they are

464
00:16:01,990 --> 00:15:59,519
the ones chosen to

465
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:02,000
br to bring his plan of redemption into

466
00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:03,040
the world

467
00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:05,120
and uh when you start to examine that

468
00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:06,480
plan of redemption

469
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:08,800
sometimes you get to understand that the

470
00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:10,800
the phrase chosen people isn't

471
00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:13,519
necessarily this um it's not because

472
00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:14,560
they were

473
00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:18,240
like that they just happened to be the

474
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:19,839
group he chose to

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00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:21,839
to communicate and execute his plan to

476
00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:23,680
the world

477
00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:26,800
and is that what jews would say because

478
00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,639
again as you're pointing out for them

479
00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:30,320
the messiah was a political figure that

480
00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:31,440
was going to lead

481
00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:35,279
the jews back to their homeland and

482
00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:38,800
right out of oppression not necessarily

483
00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:41,920
to save everybody else well you know

484
00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:43,279
see but that's the funny part those

485
00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:44,959
things are mixed in and that's one of

486
00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:45,680
the

487
00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:48,959
uh both challenges but also frankly

488
00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:52,720
wonderful mysteries of the bible is that

489
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it's not one of it's not a book that you

490
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read

491
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where you turn to the chapter

492
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on you know pick a subject baptism or

493
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the chapter on

494
00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:07,839
then that

495
00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:10,079
chapter conveniently explains each

496
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,520
subject matter

497
00:17:16,029 --> 00:17:13,679
when it comes to interpreting the bible

498
00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:16,039
you have all of these things

499
00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:18,640
interwoven in a multi-dimensional

500
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tapestry

501
00:17:24,549 --> 00:17:22,640
that you have to pull the it's like

502
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:24,559
assembling a jigsaw puzzle

503
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:26,160
that you don't have a picture of in

504
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:27,760
advance right

505
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:30,400
it's like you deliver a box and it's got

506
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a jigsaw puzzle in it

507
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,440
and there's no picture on the box but

508
00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:35,200
you're gonna do this puzzle right so you

509
00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:37,039
dump all the pieces out on the table

510
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:38,640
and you start sorting them out according

511
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:40,320
to color and stuff like that and

512
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,160
at first you have no idea what the

513
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:44,160
picture is but eventually it starts to

514
00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:45,360
take shape and you go

515
00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:48,080
oh this is a man in a canoe you know and

516
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:49,840
and you start to figure it out so

517
00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:51,600
when it comes to questions like you're

518
00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:53,360
asking of

519
00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:55,919
the jews were expecting a military

520
00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:56,559
leader

521
00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:59,280
absolutely because there you can turn to

522
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:00,960
sections of the old testament that

523
00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:04,160
clearly indicate that but and were they

524
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:05,440
expecting the messiah who's going to

525
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:08,240
save them yes they were expecting a

526
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:10,400
messiah that was going to save the jews

527
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:13,280
but what about this what about the

528
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:14,960
others what about the rest of the world

529
00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:17,760
well that's there too it's just a matter

530
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:19,600
of making sure you're reading clearly

531
00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:20,640
and carefully

532
00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:22,720
and understanding everything that's

533
00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:23,919
there because

534
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:26,720
as god's chosen people the jews were

535
00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:27,520
supposed to be

536
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:30,480
a light to the gentiles which is

537
00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:31,520
everybody else

538
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:33,679
you know those of us that are not jews

539
00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:35,200
they were supposed to be a light to the

540
00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:36,320
gentiles and

541
00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:37,919
you know sometimes they lost sight of

542
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:40,240
that well and back and i think we

543
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:41,280
covered this last time

544
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:43,440
back thousands of years ago all these

545
00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:44,400
different

546
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:46,480
societies all thought they had their own

547
00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:47,919
god so sure of course

548
00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,360
didn't the jews think that god was

549
00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:53,679
just their god and everybody else had

550
00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:54,559
their own god

551
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:56,480
well that's you know and that well that

552
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,320
opens up a great discussion that is

553
00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:00,240
obviously interconnected but we could go

554
00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:02,240
you know on huge rabbit trails if we

555
00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:03,200
wanted to

556
00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:05,440
that brings us into understanding the

557
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:06,480
distinction

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00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:08,880
between the judeo-christian religions

559
00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:11,760
and all the other religions which is

560
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:13,360
you know the other religions were almost

561
00:19:18,270 --> 00:19:15,600
exclusively polytheistic

562
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,280
so here you have the evolution of

563
00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:20,000
judeo-christianity which is

564
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:22,160
monotheistic right and then eventually

565
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:23,760
you know islam came on the scene but

566
00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:24,000
that

567
00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:26,960
was originally a polytheistic religion

568
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:27,760
as well

569
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:29,679
that then changed over time to

570
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:30,960
monotheistic

571
00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:34,080
so so in a way yes the jews believed

572
00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:34,559
that their

573
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:37,760
god was the god because

574
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:39,120
they were the ones that were the first

575
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:40,880
ones that was like no there's one

576
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,760
there's not 20 or 50 or a hundred or a

577
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:45,360
thousand or millions

578
00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:48,880
of gods there's one god so

579
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,840
they didn't believe that this was their

580
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:53,919
their god

581
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:57,360
thought that there was no other gods

582
00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:00,960
correct yeah kind of simplified but yes

583
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:01,840
yeah

584
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:06,799
this was their god the one the one true

585
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:10,080
god yeah so had they not

586
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:14,080
rejected jesus as the messiah

587
00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:16,480
play that scenario out for me what if

588
00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:18,159
the jews had embraced him

589
00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:20,320
uh right so we call this speculative

590
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:21,440
theology

591
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,960
because see all through the old

592
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:24,960
testament there's these prophecies

593
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,880
about the messiah and what's going to

594
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:28,799
happen when he comes

595
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:30,640
right well if you're a christian you're

596
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:32,000
going well he did come

597
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:33,840
if you're a jew you're saying well no he

598
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:36,880
didn't but if they had accepted him

599
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:39,039
uh the understanding is that he would

600
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:40,480
have instituted

601
00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:43,200
um he would have been a geopolitical

602
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,000
leader

603
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:46,640
that israel would have become the head

604
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:48,799
of nations and that jesus would have

605
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:49,440
become

606
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:51,200
in effect not only the king of israel

607
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,880
but the king of the world

608
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,880
right and that he would it's this is

609
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:56,480
where we get all the verses

610
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:59,760
about um you got to say it correctly

611
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:01,120
it's easy to flip it

612
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:03,840
beating your swords into plowshares that

613
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:05,440
there would be an end of war there would

614
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:06,880
be peace there would be

615
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:09,280
prosperity everybody would get along you

616
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:10,159
know it's the

617
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:13,039
it's the judeo-christian equivalent of

618
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:14,000
utopia

619
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,919
you know that there would be heaven on

620
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:17,520
earth paradise on earth

621
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:21,280
you know under the messiah

622
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:25,840
so again if they had not rejected him

623
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:26,960
he would have been put to death

624
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:29,200
obviously right which

625
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:32,320
then doesn't fulfill the whole right

626
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:33,120
right

627
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,159
fulfill other prophecies

628
00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:38,080
but at least theoretically right

629
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,679
speculative theology

630
00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:41,280
he would have been crowned king of

631
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,520
israel and then would have

632
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:45,840
you know fulfilled the other prophecies

633
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,640
about

634
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,960
bringing a light to the nations a light

635
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,240
to the gentiles

636
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:52,480
and um you know converting the gentiles

637
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,760
and bringing

638
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:55,600
you know bringing peace to the world you

639
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,159
know envision world peace

640
00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:00,799
and and you're you you believe that he

641
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:01,840
would have

642
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:03,679
achieved that because i mean somehow he

643
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:05,120
you would have has to cast off the

644
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,720
romans how would that happen

645
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,960
well i mean so so this is really

646
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:10,480
interesting because see the flip side of

647
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:12,720
your question is okay well he didn't

648
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,880
right and those and those but but what

649
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:16,159
that means is those

650
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:18,799
the same things i'm talking about now in

651
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:20,080
a speculative

652
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,440
fashion i believe will happen at what we

653
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:25,120
now call the second coming

654
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,760
right okay so it's the same scriptures

655
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:28,960
if you if you're searching the

656
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,000
scriptures

657
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:33,440
in the old testament about what that

658
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,720
time

659
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,320
is going to look like when the messiah

660
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,080
comes and the messiah

661
00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:40,880
takes control and he brings peace to the

662
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:42,480
world what does that look like

663
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,400
well those verses are still there we're

664
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,840
just talking about the distinction

665
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:47,039
between

666
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,640
speculating what that would have looked

667
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,640
like if the jews had accepted him

668
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:52,400
or what it will look like in the future

669
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:54,000
when he returns so yes

670
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:56,159
he would have been become a geopolitical

671
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:58,000
leader and he would have thrown off the

672
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,880
romans i mean

673
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:01,280
but not but we have the scriptures that

674
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:02,480
talk about you know the battle of

675
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:03,520
armageddon and

676
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:06,080
wiping out the armies of the antichrist

677
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,559
which

678
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:09,760
you know you could apply to the romans

679
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:10,960
it's possible

680
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:14,240
you know so um

681
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,280
how how big did how known was

682
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:19,360
was jesus at the time that he was

683
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,480
ultimately

684
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,799
crucified well i mean at the time he was

685
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:24,480
crucified i mean it's pretty

686
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:27,840
limited to you know the the geographic

687
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,000
nation of israel even as we know it

688
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:32,960
today it wasn't a very large area

689
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:34,840
geographically

690
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:37,520
um and you know given the fact that we

691
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,640
don't have the

692
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,240
they didn't have the communication

693
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:42,480
systems you know that we do now

694
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:45,279
i mean you have to speculate that you

695
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:46,480
know he was

696
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,159
only known to you know maybe several

697
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:52,240
hundred thousand people that's

698
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:54,880
you know it can't have been a huge

699
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,760
number

700
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:57,360
i mean what's what you know in

701
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:58,799
interpreting the bible what's like the

702
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:00,799
largest crowds that he ever

703
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:05,039
addressed you know specifically that we

704
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,240
have from scripture is

705
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:07,919
you know like about five thousand at the

706
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:09,840
time

707
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,440
but you're given the given the fact that

708
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,080
he his ministry began in galilee and he

709
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:16,159
did travel to jerusalem and that

710
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:18,080
he did you know the word would have

711
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:19,760
spread to some degree

712
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:22,400
you know especially amongst those that

713
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:23,840
believed

714
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,159
you do have verses that speak about

715
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:30,480
well we have found the messiah and they

716
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,440
go and they

717
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:33,520
noise it abroad and they tell anybody

718
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:35,679
who'll listen you know we have found him

719
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,320
so

720
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:38,240
but a lot of people as we're as we're

721
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:39,600
already acknowledging

722
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:41,279
a lot of people also said well no that's

723
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:42,880
not him so

724
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,320
so

725
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,159
but yeah clearly the number can't have

726
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,400
been huge because

727
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:52,480
even in those crowds of three thousand

728
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:53,679
or five thousand

729
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:56,000
when he did certain miracles that's not

730
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:57,840
a whole lot of people in the population

731
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,480
of

732
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:01,120
jerusalem even if everybody knew you

733
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:02,640
know the population of jerusalem was

734
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:04,000
maybe a couple hundred thousand

735
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:07,279
you know and how about his crucifixion

736
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:08,320
itself because

737
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,360
you would have thought there would have

738
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,679
been a lot of people if they were

739
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,159
believers that would be coming in right

740
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,360
well testing this and be extremely

741
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:19,360
agitated by the fact that they're

742
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:20,400
killing this man

743
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:22,400
well they there were some at the

744
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:23,600
crucifixion you also got to remember

745
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:24,640
that they're terrified

746
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:28,000
however you know which is that um

747
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,600
because in that boiling pot of

748
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:33,520
everything that would have been going on

749
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:36,880
you would have had a minority of jews

750
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,200
who believed he was the messiah

751
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:41,440
then you had the majority of jews who

752
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,640
did not

753
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,960
believe he was the messiah then you had

754
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:45,840
the roman

755
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:49,279
occupying army that could care less

756
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,240
which he was all they cared about was

757
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:53,840
maintaining the peace

758
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,480
and collecting their tribute right so

759
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,080
that's a you know that's actually a big

760
00:26:02,789 --> 00:25:59,840
part of the

761
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,799
timing of the crucifixion is that the

762
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:03,840
jews

763
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:07,520
who did not believe

764
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:10,880
and were complicit in the crucifixion

765
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,559
they you know the romans were concerned

766
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,880
that there would be a riot if his body

767
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:18,720
remained on the cross when the passover

768
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,440
started

769
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,120
so that's one of the clues we used to

770
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,200
figure out exactly when the crucifixion

771
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:25,039
did occur

772
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:28,320
okay so tell us when you think it did

773
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:31,600
occur and then when did he rise from the

774
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:32,240
dead

775
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:35,120
okay so based upon now if you do it work

776
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:36,480
you can do it two ways you can work

777
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:37,440
forward

778
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,279
and or you can work backwards and then

779
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:40,720
you can combine the two

780
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,840
to figure out what happened but so in

781
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:46,159
the commemoration in the memorial of the

782
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,520
passover right so

783
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,360
it was initiated back in the old

784
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,960
testament in egypt

785
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:52,799
god told moses do this do that do this

786
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:55,120
do that but then after they

787
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,600
exited egypt god told them to

788
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,760
commemorate the passover and do it this

789
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:00,320
way

790
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:03,840
abc xyz do it like this so there was

791
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:06,320
this thing called the day of preparation

792
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,720
and the day of preparation was the day

793
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:10,640
that the lamb was selected because the

794
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:11,279
lamb

795
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:14,400
had to meet certain criteria and they

796
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:15,840
would select the lamb

797
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:18,240
and they would slaughter the lamb and

798
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:19,120
then we

799
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:22,960
um we have to remember that in jewish

800
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,000
uh the reckoning of time the day begins

801
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,640
at sunset doesn't begin at sunrise it

802
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,080
begins at sunset

803
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:33,039
so the way the whole passover is timed

804
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,000
is that in the

805
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,039
afternoon of the day of preparation

806
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:39,200
the lamb would be selected the lamb

807
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,399
would be slaughtered

808
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:42,880
and the lamb would be roasted and then

809
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:43,679
the sun

810
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,799
would set and that is when passover

811
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:49,679
would officially begin so even though

812
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:52,640
the day of preparation was a

813
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:55,600
part of passover it did not officially

814
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:56,320
begin

815
00:28:03,190 --> 00:27:59,440
until the sun set on that given day

816
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,200
right so based upon that

817
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:05,600
and some other evidence i believe that

818
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:06,480
jesus was

819
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:09,600
literally crucified at the exact same

820
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,320
time

821
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,159
that the passover lambs were being

822
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:13,919
chosen and slaughtered

823
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:16,640
on the day of preparation immediately

824
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:17,919
preceding

825
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,320
the official beginning of the passover

826
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,600
okay but

827
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:24,320
what about the last supper where jesus

828
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,600
is celebrating passover

829
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:27,919
right so that that is one of the clues

830
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:28,640
of this

831
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:31,440
that is a little bit confusing because

832
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:31,840
uh

833
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:35,520
because he clearly endeavored to keep

834
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:36,640
the passover

835
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,880
with his disciples but they also rather

836
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,360
clearly did not do it at the explicit

837
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:42,480
designated time

838
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,320
they had to have done it earlier because

839
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,880
well i it has to be that he chose it to

840
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:50,159
to do it that way

841
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,399
because it was in anticipation of his

842
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,480
own death

843
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:56,720
is that they're gonna kill me on the

844
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,080
passover so guess what

845
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,399
guys we got to get together a day or two

846
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,399
early and make this happen because

847
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,799
if i wait to try to fulfill it at the

848
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,080
exact moment you know that

849
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,240
because i am going to be the final

850
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,600
passover

851
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:12,159
as the lamb of god slaughtered at the

852
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:13,360
same time the lamb was going to be

853
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:14,159
passed over

854
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:16,000
i you know i'm not going to be i'm not

855
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:17,520
going to be around for the meal

856
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:21,039
so we have to do the meal early and

857
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,720
are you saying that you believe that the

858
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:27,120
jews or the romans whoever was

859
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:28,640
scheduling

860
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,960
this crucifixion they were the ones

861
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,760
scheduling it

862
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:34,080
for well and that's over it's this is

863
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,919
more uh what's the word

864
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,520
you this is more you know god's

865
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,679
sovereignty of how he

866
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,840
worked things out according to divine

867
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:43,360
timing because of course the romans had

868
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,159
no clue

869
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,240
you know they didn't know he was the

870
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,320
lamb of god and therefore we're going to

871
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,799
deliberately and specifically crucify

872
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:52,799
him at the day and time that the lambs

873
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:55,600
are dying no this is this is god in his

874
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:56,720
sovereignty

875
00:30:02,630 --> 00:29:59,840
demonstrating that he knows the end

876
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,640
from the beginning and you know in a

877
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,000
manner of speaking

878
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:06,559
you know controls these things that that

879
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,000
the messiah

880
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:10,240
should die at the exact time as the

881
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,279
passover lamb and

882
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,360
that's the and see there it is that's

883
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,360
the reason like i said earlier

884
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,360
that we call him the lamb of god it's

885
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:18,960
not a

886
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,600
um it's not some random innocent animal

887
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:23,200
it's a very specific

888
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:26,240
label that if you're a see here's the

889
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:26,880
point

890
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,760
if you were a practicing jew at that

891
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,960
time

892
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:32,640
and john the baptist comes around

893
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,799
preaching repentance the kingdom of god

894
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:36,559
is at hand and then he says oh by the

895
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:37,200
way

896
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,720
that is the lamb of god if you are a

897
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,640
practicing jew you're going

898
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:45,520
ooh lamb of god passover what's he

899
00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:46,559
talking about

900
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:47,919
you're going to be at because that's

901
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,279
specific it's not it's not random and

902
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:53,120
likewise wrapped up in this whole

903
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:54,480
equation is

904
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,720
the label bread of life and the label

905
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:58,080
first fruits from the dead

906
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,519
they're connected to this too and

907
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:01,440
they're very specific and they're very

908
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:02,320
specific

909
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:05,679
about his crucifixion so the last supper

910
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,240
meal

911
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:09,120
though was essentially a passover

912
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:09,840
correct

913
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:12,640
yes it was but you would say it it would

914
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:13,679
have taken place

915
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,720
the day before correct like 24 to 36

916
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,320
hours early

917
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:20,240
earlier is when it took place correct

918
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:21,360
okay

919
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,080
and um so then he then he's crucified

920
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:29,279
on uh passover

921
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:31,279
right on the day of preparation the day

922
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,559
operation actually yep

923
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,880
yeah but right before the sun sets

924
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:36,080
inaugurating the

925
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:39,679
passover yep and then when is he

926
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,559
resurrected he's resurrected three days

927
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:44,640
later 72 hours later

928
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:47,519
and we know that simply from the bible

929
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,480
saying that or

930
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,840
correct from the bible saying that

931
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,679
because there's there's one particular

932
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,120
confrontation

933
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:55,760
between jesus and the pharisees where

934
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:56,799
the pharisees

935
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:00,640
demand a sign from jesus and he says

936
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:04,960
you will not see any sign except

937
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:08,000
the sign of the prophet jonah that as

938
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:11,919
jonah was three days and three nights

939
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,039
in the belly of the fish so shall

940
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,279
the son of man be three days and three

941
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:19,519
nights in the heart of the earth

942
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,080
and what's the significance of the

943
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:23,840
resurrection how does that fit into the

944
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,710
whole redemption

945
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:26,399
[Music]

946
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,880
myth or well it's it's it's it's that

947
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:31,039
death and separation from god

948
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:34,080
is the ultimate punishment right if if

949
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,200
god's intention

950
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:37,360
as i mentioned earlier as part of the

951
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:38,799
everlasting covenant

952
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,000
was to create a frankly a partner

953
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,799
for himself right that was the intention

954
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:46,480
is that god conceived of

955
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:49,600
in his mind for lack of a better word to

956
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:51,519
create the perfect

957
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,320
partner for himself right he's the

958
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:56,399
invisible god we are the visible

959
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:57,519
creation

960
00:33:01,669 --> 00:33:00,799
um he is celestial we are terrestrial

961
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,679
right so we're

962
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,320
we're the perfect counterpart to the

963
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:06,159
invisible god he wanted to create

964
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,279
something

965
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,600
uh to to love he created a race of

966
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:11,279
beings that he could love

967
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:14,480
if that was his intention then death

968
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,600
is the ultimate separation from god

969
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:19,519
and we don't get to enjoy that

970
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:21,679
fellowship and neither does he

971
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,320
so and as we talked about earlier when

972
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:25,919
he told adam and eve okay

973
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:28,559
here's the ground rules right there's

974
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:29,039
pretty much

975
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:30,720
one don't eat of the tree of the

976
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:32,080
knowledge of good and evil but if you do

977
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:33,200
you're gonna die

978
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,480
right so that's what brought upon death

979
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,600
and separation

980
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:39,039
and therefore this whole plan of

981
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:40,720
redemption was to

982
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:43,600
correct that and bring us to a place

983
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:44,320
where

984
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:46,080
we can have fellowship with god and

985
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:47,679
frankly fellowship with the

986
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:50,960
with god eternally so

987
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:54,320
yeah when we die we can now go to heaven

988
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:56,559
right to live with god but we don't come

989
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:57,519
back to earth

990
00:34:00,950 --> 00:34:00,480
so what's this why have we known earth

991
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:00,960
that's

992
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,159
this is largely

993
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:06,240
understood in certain segments well i

994
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:07,440
should say that again make sure i said

995
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:08,560
that clearly

996
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:11,760
this is largely misunderstood in

997
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:14,800
large segments of christianity heaven is

998
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:16,480
a holding tank

999
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:20,320
the goal is to be resurrected

1000
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:22,720
back in a physical body and returned to

1001
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:23,839
the earth

1002
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:32,470
wow i know that one yep on this earth so

1003
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:33,440
you're saying

1004
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:36,720
heaven is just a holding tank yep

1005
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:40,079
okay and when is that does that require

1006
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,040
the second coming

1007
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:43,200
before you get out of the holding tank

1008
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:44,560
yeah that's part of it that's part of

1009
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:45,919
the equation

1010
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:48,800
that um you know if if you me whoever we

1011
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,839
died today

1012
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:52,320
right the body is done the body turns to

1013
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,200
dust

1014
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,919
right because that's what the bible says

1015
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:57,280
that you know and we know that we're

1016
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:58,880
made up of minerals and water

1017
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:01,359
right so the body decays and turns to

1018
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:03,760
dust but the spirit that god created

1019
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,119
goes back to god

1020
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,160
in heaven or the spirit realm or

1021
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,480
you know whatever you know word you want

1022
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:12,160
to use the bible uses the word

1023
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:15,040
heaven right where you hang out with god

1024
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:16,880
until

1025
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:20,240
the second coming which is when he

1026
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:23,520
um is depending upon there's different

1027
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:24,720
groups that have

1028
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,800
a different role in the future but if

1029
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:28,800
you're a christian

1030
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,920
it says that you come back with jesus at

1031
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,280
the second coming

1032
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:36,160
and are therefore put into a resurrected

1033
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,880
body like his resurrected body

1034
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:41,440
from when from that point forward you

1035
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:44,720
live forever

1036
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,839
so you come back to earth in

1037
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:50,240
what body well you come back to the

1038
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:50,880
earth

1039
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,000
you know as a you know theoretically as

1040
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:55,680
a spirit being and then

1041
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:58,240
somewhere in that process it says he

1042
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:00,000
puts he puts you in a new body

1043
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:02,960
just just like it's like it's and we are

1044
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:03,760
told

1045
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:06,960
that we receive a new body just as

1046
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:10,400
jesus received a new body right so

1047
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,079
that means once again now we're looking

1048
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:14,160
at the story of the crucifixion right

1049
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,160
and the fact that when the uh the women

1050
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:20,320
arrived on the first day of the week to

1051
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:21,839
anoint the body

1052
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:25,040
he was gone right the body was gone so

1053
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,480
on one hand it was the same body

1054
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,960
but on the other hand it was clearly not

1055
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:32,640
the same body because

1056
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,960
in his new body he did some pretty crazy

1057
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:35,920
stuff he

1058
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,520
walked through walls he uh

1059
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,200
you know appeared in the midst of that

1060
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,119
it says that he appeared in the midst of

1061
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,880
them as if he

1062
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,880
you know just came into concretion in

1063
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:48,480
the middle of a room right

1064
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,720
so his resurrected body clearly had for

1065
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,160
lack of a better word

1066
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,880
supernatural powers right so we are

1067
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:56,640
being told in scripture pretty plainly

1068
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,160
that after we die

1069
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,160
we get put in a body like his

1070
00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:02,240
resurrected body

1071
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:05,599
so heaven isn't necessarily the ultimate

1072
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:08,480
goal and the perfect place to correct

1073
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:09,680
live in

1074
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,640
joyous la la land yeah i mean i mean

1075
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:13,920
apparently it's a pretty cool place to

1076
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:14,880
hang out

1077
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:18,240
but that's all you're doing is hanging

1078
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:18,560
out

1079
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:21,440
and and the return is to the planet

1080
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:22,160
earth

1081
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:24,640
correct and it sounds like it'd be a

1082
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,079
little crowded

1083
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,160
well i mean yeah i think it's going to

1084
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,160
be a little bit crowded because

1085
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:32,880
our part of the plan uh rather or

1086
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,240
apparently i should say

1087
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:36,079
part of the plan apparently is that

1088
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:37,440
everybody who lived in the past gets

1089
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:39,280
resurrected

1090
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,880
all the beliefs so this is one like

1091
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:42,640
because like well not everyone

1092
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:44,800
not ever correct not everyone but you

1093
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:46,320
know all believers because think about

1094
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,359
it for a second

1095
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:49,520
if you were a jew in the old testament

1096
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:50,560
who believed

1097
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:53,200
in the coming messiah right you believed

1098
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,160
that he would come

1099
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,640
eventually but you never get but you

1100
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:58,000
never got to meet him you never got to

1101
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:58,640
see him

1102
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:01,280
and you died but there's all these

1103
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:03,440
covenant promises to the old testament

1104
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,800
jews

1105
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,480
when do they get fulfilled well they get

1106
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,119
fulfilled at the second coming that's

1107
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:12,240
so the the the second coming

1108
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:15,680
is frankly is largely for the jews

1109
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:16,640
because

1110
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:19,359
god made lots of covenant promises to

1111
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,079
the jews

1112
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,480
that have never been fulfilled so when

1113
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,920
do they get fulfilled well they get

1114
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:24,720
fulfilled

1115
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:28,640
at the second coming and

1116
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:31,920
who gets to come back to earth you say

1117
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:33,920
believers how do you define a believer

1118
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:37,119
well clearly the the the the bible is

1119
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,079
very clear

1120
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:41,040
that that includes all christians right

1121
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:42,160
so that if you have

1122
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:43,920
if you confess with your mouth the lord

1123
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,839
jesus and believe in your heart that god

1124
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,119
raised him from the dead

1125
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,599
thou shalt be saved so therefore that's

1126
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:51,520
what makes a christian a christian

1127
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:54,960
if you believe it here believe it here

1128
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:57,599
speak it here that makes you a christian

1129
00:39:02,470 --> 00:38:58,480
so if you

1130
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,480
die before then right or

1131
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,240
let's let's let's throw another twist in

1132
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:05,520
here just for the fun of it

1133
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:08,079
you either die before the second coming

1134
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,960
or

1135
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,800
you're removed from the face of the

1136
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:12,960
earth at the rapture

1137
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:15,680
okay those christians all come back with

1138
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:16,000
him

1139
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:19,680
at the second coming and then likewise

1140
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:22,240
at that time all faithful jews are

1141
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:24,320
resurrected

1142
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:28,079
who so all also come back all faithful

1143
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:30,400
jews so either even ones that have

1144
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:31,680
rejected

1145
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,800
jesus faithful jews faithful meaning

1146
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,599
what

1147
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,520
well uh meaning that they lived in

1148
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:39,440
anticipation of the

1149
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,880
coming messiah and kept the law of moses

1150
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:44,320
but what about the ones that rejected

1151
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,400
jesus not precisely sure

1152
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,440
that's a gray area yep yeah

1153
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:54,000
yeah not person because what the bible

1154
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:55,200
is pretty clear about

1155
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:58,640
is that when he comes back he institutes

1156
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,680
a period of time

1157
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,680
a thousand years long where there is

1158
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:03,359
peace and prosperity on the earth it's

1159
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:03,920
very

1160
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,920
conveniently known as the millennium

1161
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:07,119
right or the

1162
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:09,920
messianic age right it's a thousand

1163
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:11,119
years long says in the book of

1164
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,160
revelation

1165
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,319
that uh you know that those who return

1166
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,240
with him will live and reign with him

1167
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:17,760
for a thousand years

1168
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:20,800
then at the end of the thousand years is

1169
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,440
when the there is this thing called the

1170
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:25,920
resurrection of the unjust

1171
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:29,680
okay which is those who apparently

1172
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:32,720
i mean i'm i'm a pretty smart guy but i

1173
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:33,920
do not claim to know

1174
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:36,400
everything about the bible and what god

1175
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,359
is trying to get

1176
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:39,760
get to but the resurrection of the

1177
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:40,880
unjust

1178
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,119
uh sure appears to be the resurrection

1179
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:44,880
of those who chose

1180
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:47,440
not to believe and then they face a

1181
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:48,160
judge this is

1182
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:51,520
the this is the judgment seat right

1183
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:54,800
where they face god as a judge and they

1184
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,119
are

1185
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:57,200
judged for because this is this is

1186
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:58,640
actually really interesting because this

1187
00:41:02,390 --> 00:40:59,760
answers a question

1188
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,400
that a lot of people have which is well

1189
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:04,640
what if you weren't a christian or a jew

1190
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,000
but you were a pretty good person

1191
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:10,319
well here's your opportunity you're

1192
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:11,920
going to face god and get

1193
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,359
judged for what you did and

1194
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,400
if he is truly a loving and just god

1195
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,079
there's got to be some pretty amazing

1196
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:22,880
mercy for people who never knew him but

1197
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:24,720
still managed to be

1198
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:27,920
a good person what if you

1199
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,640
knew what if you were aware of jesus and

1200
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:32,079
so on and you're a good person but you

1201
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:34,319
didn't you you chose not to

1202
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:36,800
follow christianity well that's why god

1203
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:39,760
gets to be the judge and not you or me

1204
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:42,800
because that's man i

1205
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,160
that's that's hard to imagine so

1206
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:48,720
uh a couple kind of wrap up uh

1207
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:49,599
high-level

1208
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:53,119
questions in light of all of that uh-huh

1209
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:55,040
on our program we've covered a lot of uh

1210
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:56,240
ufo

1211
00:42:01,349 --> 00:42:00,720
uh you followed that at all but i follow

1212
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,359
it a little

1213
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:04,240
i used to be really into it 20 years ago

1214
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:05,040
because

1215
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,560
they're believe it or not there's a ufo

1216
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:08,560
connection to the bible so i've you know

1217
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:09,200
i've dug

1218
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:12,480
into that as well you know the the uh

1219
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,680
the sons of god

1220
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,200
came in under the daughters of men and

1221
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,800
had children by him and you have the

1222
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,880
giants and the nephilim so i've i've

1223
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,880
gone there too

1224
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,480
so so yeah give us your high level

1225
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:24,800
thoughts on you know you know because

1226
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:27,599
everything seems pretty earth-centric in

1227
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:28,640
the bible

1228
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:30,240
right everything you did in returning to

1229
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,839
earth etc so

1230
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:34,400
if there's life on other planets how

1231
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:35,839
does that fit in

1232
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,640
well so i the best way for me to

1233
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:39,920
summarize this

1234
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:43,280
is the way so i so this is we didn't

1235
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:44,800
plan on going here today but let's go

1236
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:45,119
there

1237
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,920
right so i did a bunch of research many

1238
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:49,839
many years ago and i wound up

1239
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,119
with three pre what i believe were three

1240
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:55,680
preeminent experts on the

1241
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:58,880
uh on the uh equation of

1242
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:01,119
the nephilim and ufos and and all that

1243
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,079
stuff and you'll

1244
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,920
and if you've done any research in this

1245
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,119
area you'll know

1246
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:07,599
every name i'm mentioning because it was

1247
00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:08,480
it was uh

1248
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:11,839
uh is it john mack john mack a professor

1249
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:13,920
of psychiatry at harvard

1250
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:17,839
who had an extensive extensive career um

1251
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:21,040
interviewing ufo abductees i think it's

1252
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,160
john mack it's

1253
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,880
something mac right um and then jay

1254
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:26,400
allen heineck right

1255
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:29,440
and then um jacques valet

1256
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,560
right so each of these men

1257
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:35,119
reached the same conclusion which is

1258
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:36,240
that

1259
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:39,520
ufos are real but the question is what

1260
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:40,079
are they

1261
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:43,920
really and that they are hostile

1262
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:47,359
to human interest right so that was

1263
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:48,240
their summary

1264
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:51,520
it's also my summary because that is

1265
00:43:55,069 --> 00:43:53,920
what i believe the bible teaches is that

1266
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,079
there are

1267
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:57,760
extraterrestrial beings

1268
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,040
that come into concretion on the earth

1269
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:03,359
from time to time and are hostile to

1270
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:04,319
human interest

1271
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:08,079
but the bible would call them rebellious

1272
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,839
angels that they're not necessarily

1273
00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:13,680
creatures from another planet or

1274
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,640
something else they are actually

1275
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,000
interdimensional beings

1276
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,240
that are hostile to human interest and

1277
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:22,560
that meets the definition

1278
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:25,599
of a rebellious angel

1279
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:28,800
what about the simple fact that um

1280
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:31,839
based on what we know about physics and

1281
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,319
certainly the theory of the big bang etc

1282
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:36,640
in the universe that's

1283
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:40,640
almost infinitely big right and

1284
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,240
you know zillions of stars etc etc so

1285
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,319
the probabilities of there being life on

1286
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:48,240
another planet are extremely

1287
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,520
high um if there's in fact life on

1288
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:53,040
another planet what does that

1289
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:56,319
do to our theory of god and this kind of

1290
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:57,760
earth-centric

1291
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,240
view hard to say because you'd have to

1292
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,920
because we would have to know what that

1293
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,880
life is

1294
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:04,800
right because if you're talking that

1295
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,599
that life is a bacteria

1296
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:08,960
okay i don't know that that changes

1297
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:12,240
anything uh but if we were to discover

1298
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:15,359
a parallel race and just just

1299
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:17,359
speculating you know a humanoid race on

1300
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:17,760
a

1301
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:26,400
interesting questions

1302
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,599
for sure because i i know what the

1303
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:31,760
uh skeptics would say would be that you

1304
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:33,760
know well that throws into question

1305
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,960
the exclusivity of the judeo-christian

1306
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:39,040
claim that this is the one true god

1307
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,560
and that we are a unique creation

1308
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:45,359
so it certainly would run counter to the

1309
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,079
narrative

1310
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,319
well it would seem to yeah i mean i'll

1311
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:49,760
i'll admit that it seems that it would

1312
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:51,520
run counter-intuitive to it

1313
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:54,880
so but you being a believer in the

1314
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:55,760
narrative

1315
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:58,480
therefore you essentially believe that

1316
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:59,359
it

1317
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,359
such life doesn't exist right yeah i

1318
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:03,040
mean i don't reject it out of hand

1319
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:06,000
necessarily because i very very much try

1320
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,359
to be a person who

1321
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:09,280
examines the evidence and reaches my own

1322
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,359
conclusions but i do

1323
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,280
but unl until that evidence is in front

1324
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:15,359
of me i'm going to go with the evidence

1325
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,200
that i have consulted

1326
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:19,200
and that has formulated my my

1327
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:20,640
understanding my opinions

1328
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:23,520
to this day which is the scriptures okay

1329
00:46:26,829 --> 00:46:25,359
and then how about a similar thing as we

1330
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:26,839
try to match science with

1331
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,640
with with the bible and that is

1332
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:33,359
evolution versus creation and adam and

1333
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:33,760
eve

1334
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:36,720
whereas you know under the bible adam

1335
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:38,640
and eve are kind of just dropped

1336
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:41,359
on on earth as opposed to evolving from

1337
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:42,240
a

1338
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,400
will

1339
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:54,720
absolutely what's the word i want to use

1340
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:57,040
exercise my right to change my mind

1341
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,680
uh because i'm to be blunt i'm not

1342
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:01,280
exactly sure where i stand

1343
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:04,160
on that because um i've always had it in

1344
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,200
the back of my mind

1345
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,839
to do a really in-depth study of

1346
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:08,800
evolution and i've

1347
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,119
frankly just never had the opportunity

1348
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:13,359
um i've been focusing on other areas you

1349
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:13,839
know

1350
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,280
nativity that's really my

1351
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,280
area of expertise and i i mean i know

1352
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,960
the bible as a whole

1353
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:22,160
pretty well i understand the

1354
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:24,400
resurrection pretty well

1355
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,079
but when it comes to evolution in the

1356
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:28,079
bible i've never really gone there in

1357
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:28,960
depth

1358
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,520
but i will say this i don't know that

1359
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:32,880
one excludes the other

1360
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:34,640
i know a lot of christians do believe

1361
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:36,800
that that they're going to try to say oh

1362
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:37,359
no

1363
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:39,760
it was an exclusive act of creation and

1364
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:40,640
it happened

1365
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,440
exactly like this and therefore that

1366
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:46,160
alone refutes that you know evolution

1367
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,800
i'm not necessarily sure that one

1368
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:49,760
refutes

1369
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,119
the other because

1370
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:55,359
when you're looking at seeing here's you

1371
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:57,119
know a lot of my

1372
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,880
you know conservative bible-believing

1373
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,119
friends might not like this very much

1374
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,839
the f it's really interesting because i

1375
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,520
believe adam and eve were real don't get

1376
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:07,920
me wrong i believe they were real people

1377
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:11,839
but at the same time the first

1378
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,040
man the first 12 chapters of genesis

1379
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:17,680
in in particular and then the first

1380
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:21,040
three chapters of genesis

1381
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,520
man they're very they they have all the

1382
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:24,960
markings of being

1383
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,599
poetic language right and that therefore

1384
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,359
it's kind of unclear whether they're

1385
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:33,359
telling a literal story

1386
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:36,720
or are they telling a

1387
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,119
poetic version that's supposed to

1388
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:44,000
you know get us thinking now i believe

1389
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:45,359
at some point

1390
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,000
they had to have been literal but i get

1391
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:49,680
it when the skeptics go wait a second

1392
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,559
that couldn't be

1393
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:52,079
that's not possible that's not literal

1394
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,599
but then again i look at the details

1395
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:58,160
of the book of genesis and the book of

1396
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,119
genesis

1397
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:01,680
if you if you're not confused you're not

1398
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:03,680
reading carefully

1399
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:10,870
well and also you know in the bible man

1400
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:11,359
is

1401
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:14,880
very special and unique to god

1402
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:18,800
but if you believe in evolution

1403
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:21,520
man just kind of evolved uh right he

1404
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:22,480
sees something that

1405
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,079
a bunch of other things evolved from it

1406
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:26,480
at what point would man have become

1407
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:29,680
special right i mean there's he evolved

1408
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:30,559
from the apes

1409
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:32,800
presumably if you believe in evolution

1410
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:35,520
so at what point did

1411
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:37,760
humans cross over and become special to

1412
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,720
god right yeah

1413
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:41,040
at what point did god engage in a

1414
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:43,359
sovereign act that said

1415
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:46,000
okay now we're going to do humanity

1416
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,640
right

1417
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:49,040
and and it might just be that simple i

1418
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:49,760
mean maybe

1419
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:52,160
there was millions of years of

1420
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:53,599
experimenting and then at

1421
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:56,240
one point he just went okay well now

1422
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:56,960
bang

1423
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,960
here's this i don't know like i said

1424
00:50:01,190 --> 00:50:00,720
that that's unfortunately that's an area

1425
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,200
that i

1426
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,559
never really went truly in depth on

1427
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,119
um i mean i find it fascinating and i've

1428
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:08,400
always hoped to get there

1429
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,680
yeah well you know one of the points i

1430
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,000
make is that thousand years ago

1431
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:14,319
a lot of the stuff was not known so

1432
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,440
correct and before

1433
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,119
5000 years ago when the bible was

1434
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:19,040
originally written so

1435
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,079
um it was easy to believe in

1436
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:25,200
things that are simplistic

1437
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:28,720
uh origin stories as is in genesis

1438
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:30,880
whereas today you have to reconcile that

1439
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:32,319
with a lot more sophisticated

1440
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:33,040
information

1441
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:36,480
correct yes yes you do all right tim

1442
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:38,960
i think that's a good place to uh to

1443
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:41,680
leave it i wish you a very happy easter

1444
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:44,480
any special plans for the weekend not

1445
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:45,440
really i mean

1446
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:48,640
uh i mean i observe

1447
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:51,920
the holiday to the best of my ability

1448
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:54,640
as because it's to me it's passover

1449
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:55,280
right

1450
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:57,200
i mean we we never really got there

1451
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:58,480
today and i'll wrap

1452
00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:59,839
up with this quick little summary

1453
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,839
because this is one of the major points

1454
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,720
and yet we

1455
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,559
didn't even really talk about it i don't

1456
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,160
believe jesus got up from the dead

1457
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:09,280
on sunday you got it from the dead on

1458
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:10,480
saturday

1459
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:13,920
if you if you do the math accord and and

1460
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:14,559
plug in

1461
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:18,160
all of the other um information that i'm

1462
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,280
aware of all the other

1463
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,040
evidence that i'm aware of with regard

1464
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:22,880
to the crucifixion

1465
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,559
i believe he died on a wednesday

1466
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,359
afternoon and got up from the dead on

1467
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:29,040
saturday afternoon

1468
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:32,559
and then was discovered to have been

1469
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:33,119
risen

1470
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,040
on sunday morning okay and that as we

1471
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,079
hinted at earlier he was called the lamb

1472
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,079
of god for a very specific reason he was

1473
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:44,400
crucified at the exact same time

1474
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,000
that the passover lambs were being

1475
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:48,240
slaughtered he's called the bread of

1476
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:51,359
life for a reason because this

1477
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:54,559
in addition to being passover uh he was

1478
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,000
the unleavened bread

1479
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:58,559
of life and then he got up this takes a

1480
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,000
lot of time and a lot of deal

1481
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,920
it won't go there will wrap up but he

1482
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,119
was raised

1483
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,160
from the dead on another feast day

1484
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,000
of the jews called the feast of first

1485
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,040
fruits and the apostle paul

1486
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:13,359
many years after the resurrection called

1487
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,240
him

1488
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:16,720
the first fruits from the dead which is

1489
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:17,680
a huge

1490
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,079
indicator that he got up from the dead

1491
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:21,680
on the feast of first fruits

1492
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:24,559
so all of that to say that my special

1493
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,160
plans are to

1494
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:28,000
commemorate the death and resurrection

1495
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:29,200
of jesus christ

1496
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:32,160
in my heart and in my head as a

1497
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,040
fulfillment

1498
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:36,000
of these amazing prophecies about the

1499
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,680
lamb of god the bread of life and the

1500
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:39,119
first bruise from the dead

1501
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,160
that you'll be doing it on saturday in

1502
00:52:47,790 --> 00:52:44,559
in effect yes thank you again to tim

1503
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:47,800
keys you can check out his website

1504
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:51,280
godsavettheking.org godsavettheking.org

1505
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:53,359
for everything tim keys

1506
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,960
thank you also to our producer michael

1507
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:56,559
parker thank you all for listening we'll

1508
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:58,640
be back soon with another episode of

1509
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:00,559
the hidden tree show happy easter

1510
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:07,990
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1511
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:09,760
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1512
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,280
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1513
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1514
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1516
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